#gw meta

[a-river-of-stars]

Heero Yuy chose his name like Relena Darlian chose her name like Zechs Merquise chose his name like Duo Maxwell chose his name like Trowa Barton chose his name

Some have their names chosen for them by loved ones or superiors, others choose them entirely on their own, but in the end they all choose the names they've adopted over their birth names

Quatre and Wufei are the only major protagonists who go by their own birth names for the entire series run

Gundam Wing supports your right to leave behind your deadname and choose a new name for yourself

Or rob a dead guy for his name if you can't be bothered to come up with your own

[mrs-n-uzumaki]

Finally got round to watching Ghost Whisperer after it has been on my list since Charmed was still airing, and upon season 4 I have compiled a list of the worst things the writers have done thus far that have been hammering the nail in this coffin:

Should go without saying, but SPOILERS AHEAD

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3: Rick Payne leaving. I get that the actor had other projects but damn it. He was a fun character who had plenty of chemistry with everyone. His relationship with Melinda was also cute to watch (platonic or otherwise). Their friendship was something really special and it could’ve morphed into something further after the arguably worst story idea that happens in s4. Payne was the only enjoyable new addition since Andrea’s death. And speaking of which…

2. Dafuq. Why. would you. kill this character. Again, I get the actress was pursuing other things, but why not just replace the actress??? Andrea could’ve still been kept on the show. She was far more interesting than the character who replaced her. (And don’t even get me started on Delia, who’s utterly boring and frankly annoying with her continuous scepticism and gaslighting. But fine whatever, do your thing in the corner.)

1. Yeah, I don’t think this needs to be said, but there was literally no reason to kill off Jim. I can’t believe the writers actually sat in their meeting room and patted themselves on the back for killing off one of their best and supportive characters just to spice up *some* drama. For crying out loud, the actor didn’t even leave the show. What in soap opera nonsense was this?

[wraith-caller]

Never been a fan of people trying to shape the Golden Order into conservative Christianity. Reading fics where they talk about women needing to be "traditional" or seen but not heard, when the figurehead of the Order is a woman who has waged loads of wars, had two husbands, makes a point of examining her faith rather than submissively accepting it. Seeing posts that seem to say the GO is villainizing the use of sorcery, a way of deriding the carians, when one of the greatest champions of the Order himself studied sorcery of his own volition, and married perhaps the greatest sorceress ever known. There's nothing to indicate the GO ever had a beef with the practice of sorcery, and it's not like they shuttered Raya Lucaria after the union of the Moon and Erdtree. Cringing every time someone describes Fundamentalism as the "thoughtless extremist" wing of the Order when it's supposed to be about taking a scholarly approach to the examination of the laws of causality and regression.

Idk. It's just, there's so many reasons to be skeeved out by the GO, and it exists within a fantasy with a totally distinct history from our own world. While there are obviously influences from a wide variety of real-world sources on the mythology and world of the game, it's not a direct copy of reality. It's lame to see sth so full of opportunity for interesting world building from fans just turned into a watered down copy of what they despise in reality.

[slotumn]

My favorite house are the Deer and my OTP are both GD, so I tend to write most of my fics in VW, but I think the scenario I actually find the most fascinating in terms of... character exploration potential? is actually Silver Snow. Because there, all three lords lose, and the only person who remains to do the hard (and ungrateful) work of rebuilding is Byleth.

(And tbh even if it's not SS specifically I just really like any kind of scenario where all three lords lose miserably. I love good whump and I really love stuff that leans into despair of "everything I did and everything I lived for all amounted to nothing," that's the good shit)

For Dimitri and Edelgard, I think it's fitting and poignant if they both die in scenarios where they don't win; for Claude, though, I really like the idea of him being alive in SS or any "all three lose" scenario, but never getting to yield political power again.

And because he survived, he doesn't even get to be heroized or romanticized like Edelgard and Dimitri. Maybe if he had good results with his schemes, he'd be a genius and the Master Tactician, but he didn't, so now he's just a lying backstabbing piece of shit, as far as public opinion is concerned, and it's extremely humiliating. Of course Claude would rather be alive and humiliated than dead and valorized, but that doesn't mean it's fun!

Plus there's the great irony of how he'd go from being unfairly hated because of his heritage, of being an outsider... to being pretty fairly hated. Like not only is he a war criminal, he is a war criminal who lost. And even before he lost he was already contentious within his own faction. His PR is not recovering.

I'm rambling here but one of my favorite aspects of Claude's character is how he holds a philosophy along the lines of "it's not the strong who survive, it's those who survive that are strong." That as long as you're breathing, there's another chance. It's a very appropriate blend of pragmatic and optimistic for someone with his background.

At the same time, that just makes me wonder how he'd react if he's killed in all ways but physical. For how laid back he acts, he's still a prince, and a politician through and through. So what's it going to be like, once he's breathing but socially and politically dead, with the blood of thousands on his hands?

What's it going to be like, once he'd outlived the two others who'd understand?

Tl;dr I love the idea of "if nothing else I'll outlive them" becoming a monkey's paw for Claude, him surviving as a pathetic cowardly loser (the exact thing he must have been accused of being since childhood) instead of a leader in a new era

[radiashen]

see the thing is the ghosts in xianzhou luofu is more about leftover desires. aspirations unfulfilled, burning still. unfinished business stuff. because the grief is carried by the living. forever. while in jarilo-vi the ghost /is/ the memory. the echoes that linger. that is the voice of the person you loved calling you from the dark alleyway do you answer it? is it really still the person you loved if it's whatever's left of them stuck in a broken record between the snow? what if you want to hear them anyway? anyway yeah im normal whyd you ask

[gaywatch]

Hi! I was curious whether you'd read ariaste's unhinged gomens 2 meta (https://www.tumblr.com/ariaste/724311712381222912/the-magic-trick-you-didnt-see-being-an-analysis?source=share), and if you had any thoughts on it? I personally found it to be a very fun read, and even if I don't think I agree with all of it, I found certain points extremely compelling.

I looked it over yesterday (the day before? it was a long weekend thanks Neil) and I love the enthusiasm but agree with very little. A lot of it involves pure speculation asserted as objective fact, correlation without causation, and they even bring back the weird fan argument from season four of Sherlock that it must have been bad on purpose as part of some grand scheme. The Big Trick they build towards is fundamentally based on an assumption--unless I missed some vital exposition somewhere (which is always a possibility, lol) we have no idea if Metatron has access to the Book of Life. So while that idea can spin off to some really interesting places, and it would be cool if Metatron was manipulating certain things to make sure events play out the way God wants, there's currently no real weight to the theory.

One small thing they noticed that I think is interesting, though, is the book Muriel was reading at the end. The Crow Road is apparently about a guy who sorts through a bunch of papers his uncle left behind and starts piecing together a mystery. This is a good detail because we can draw reasonable possibilities from hard facts. Muriel has just picked up a reading habit ---> she has just inherited a bookstore where Az lived and kept notes/journals ---> Muriel could feasibly stumble across Az's journal, naively think it's just a bit of fiction, and wind up putting clues together that contribute to unraveling a real mystery. The idea also fits tonally with the show itself--Muriel only making a significant discovery accidentally-on-purpose is exactly the type of humor and irony that Good Omens gravitates towards. What that mystery could be is anyone's guess, and her holding up that book could easily be for some innocuous reason like 'they needed to have her reading something so Neil suggested one of his faves,' but it's a pretty reasonable idea.

[spiribia]

it always makes me laugh when 'sped up' is the first search result suggestion. like people were collectively like Lets get a move on.

[a-gay-little-cat]

it's been a minute since i played guild wars but I've been so excited to pick it back up with a new character and leveling and playing it with my friend and it's making me shake like a small dog thinking about the story and the game again,!!

[two-reflections]

I feel you. This is why I usually refer to Vulkan He'stan as He'stan rather than by his ceremonial name. Which, to be fair, the Salamanders books and other Salamanders often do too! Here's an excerpt from Chapter Three of Firedrake by Nick Kyme:

He’stan felt Tu’Shan’s presence beside him, rather than saw him. The Chapter Master had a singular aura about him, a sense of the indomitable that He’stan had never felt in any other Salamander. He had been young when he’d assumed the mantle of Regent, but it was one he wore with great nobility and distinction. No two greater champions of the Chapter existed in the current decaying age of the universe. He’stan felt great pride but also profound sorrow at that revelation.

‘The ice will recede, the mountains will weep, Deathfire shall speak her rumbling refrain once more,’ He’stan said. He’d removed his battle-helm, a beautiful piece of his artificer armour rendered with saurian affectations and artistic flourishes. Underneath it, his face was sombre and grave. ‘I am the bearer of Vulkan’s Spear and I wear Kesare’s Mantle,’ he said. ‘Upon my left fist is the Gauntlet of the Forge, but it is nothing matched against our mother’s fiery heart. What is the will of a Forgefather or a Regent compared to that?’

It was at He’stan’s request that they’d come to one of the viewing galleries in Prometheus space port. The long chamber was dark, illuminated by brazier coals. The flickering light revealed the icon of the Firedrakes as they pulled the shadows away, only for it to be swallowed as the darkness reasserted itself again a few moments later.

‘Aye, we are humbled by her savage beauty, Lord He’stan.’ Tu’Shan clapped a firm hand upon the Forgefather’s shoulder.

James Workshop, we need to talk.

Why THE HELL are the Primarch and Forgemaster of the Salamanders both named Vulkan? Why is Vulkan in charge of the search for Vulkan with the Spear of Vulkan to bring Vulkan back to be Vulkan’s commander this is SO CONFUSING! WHICH VULKAN ARE WE REFERRING TO AT ANY GIVEN TIME! WHY??

(Yes I know naming people after primarchs makes sense in universe but THIS is goddamn CONFUSING)

[ladymirdan]

*me picking up a box of Sisters at the Warhammer store, flipping the box around a bit*

GW Guy: “oh that is a fun box, lots of options. What loadout are you thinking about giving them?”

Me:”I havent really decided yet. I don't go after meta or playability really, I mostly just go by what looks fun to paint.”

GW Guy:”Oh I know. I have seen your Havocs.”

Me:”Whats wrong with my Havocs?”

[the-irken-pony]

THSC Meta Voice Potential Backstory + Additional headcanons

Because my first post about them was long enough and also because there's a lot more headcanon than actual lore meat this time around.

Edit:

[ID: The "So that was a fucking lie" meme. End ID.]

I do go a bit in-depth with explaining some of them at the end, but I'm starting with the headcanons themselves. I want to focus on the headcanons rather than having the long explanations dominate the entire post. It's a bit of a different format than I usually do, but it's one I want to try out. (That and not all of them have explanations beyond "vibes" so I'm giving myself some leeway there.)

Starting with the "shock twist" headcanon: I do genuinely believe them to have once been a stick figure who lived in the THSCverse like Henry, Charles, Dave, etc., rather than having always been a disembodied string of text.

They were most likely a superpowered stick figure like Henry, but they probably had weaker, downgraded versions of their current timeline-stopping abilities (the FAILs).

Their other abilities (eg conjuration) arose as a result of their integration into the fabric of their reality, rather than being part of their default abilities.

They used to be a gadgeteer, and still engage with gadgetry off to the side.

Said gadgetry profession may be directly related to their disappearance, or their merging with their reality. No solid headcanon on what caused whatever happened to them but I do have a potential idea.

They had a criminal history before Henry, and have a kleptomania problem of their own.

They don't age, at least not anymore. They stopped after they integrated into the game.

Their attachment to Henry is in part because Henry is the only one who can actually see them anymore.

Road rage

As for explanations behind them, I’m breaking it into sections since it’s. long.

Gadgetry

First off, I wanna discuss their affinity for gadgetry (smth that @/stickthinks brought up in their THSC live blog that I've been fixated on ever since).

While the meta voice knows more about the various people and locales seen throughout the game than any one person in the universe feasibly could, their knowledge isn't limitless. Many of their comments seem to be guesswork rather than actual knowledge. Furthermore, for how much they seem to know, their attitude toward people in general is rather... blasé, and doesn't seem to be too partial to who Henry aligns himself with.

What they DO show a vested interest in is the various gadgets that Henry uses. The first example is actually the first two instances of the Teleporter in the remastered Breaking the Bank and in Escaping the Prison. In Breaking the Bank, they state that the teleporter uses new technology and is optimistic about its potential, and assume the fail in EtP is Henry not knowing how to use it.

[ID: Fail screen for Breaking the Bank’s teleporter option which reads “it’s emergent technology. I’m sure it will get better!”]

Their first hint of actually knowing how stuff works comes from the Opacitator, in which they mention a Beta Testing phase; both words are specifically capitalized, implying that this is a formally named stage of development (I mean I would hope so).

[ID: fail screen for the opacitator fail which reads: “you’d think something like that would come up in the beta testing.” The words beta testing are capitalized. End id.]

Where it's really revealed to have in depth knowledge is in the Wormhole Rifle fail, where we get its iconic info dump moment, where it gives a detailed run-down of the mechanics and makeup of the gun.

ID: the fail screen for the wormhole rifle, which is a wall of text in a small font. It reads:

“I'm surprised you weren't able to get down there with that amazing portal technology. It's pretty strange how those portal guns work. I mean it combines the top scientific processes of our time. the portal gun contains a flux quantum generator which propels energy blasts with energy volumes of 4.23 GW with an average speed of 25 m/s. this speed is most effective because it allows the energy to be conserved while still maintaining a speed that is appropriate. The external plastic coating on the portal gun is constructed of a high polymer fireproof carbon fiber. this prevents the intense energy of the portal gun from burning the hands of the user. The intense energy causes intense heat. Oh by the way if you want a medal/achievement click here. I've heard that scientists still do not know what happens if two portals are placed on top of one another. The last time that was attempted... Well I'm sure you heard about it on the news.” End ID.]

What's interesting is that it mentions that there actually WAS an attempt to place two portals on top of each other, but doesn't go into detail about what. This could either imply that they simply consider it common knowledge not worth repeating, or it could imply that the subject is uncomfortable enough that they'd rather avoid it. The latter option could be an indication that they were actually present for the attempt.

Going further, they may have even directly worked on the Jetboots. The fail message is specifically a production note.

ID: fail screen for the jetboots option, which reads “jetboots production notes: find lighter material to construct boots out of.” End ID.]

Their Original Form, And Why They Changed

The reason I wanted to go over that one first is because it ties into some other stuff. For instance, it proves that they’re more tied to the THSCverse than to our world. Especially given that, in the wormhole rifle info dump, they specifically say “it combines the top scientific processes of our time,” when the concept of a portal gun is still completely fictional in our world.

Additionally, they question our apparent inability to distinguish visually near-identical stick figures (indirectly acknowledging the player as not a stick figure by proxy).

[ID: fail screen for the Toppy option which reads “they could tell you don’t look like Henry. What, you think all stick figures look the same??” End id.]

Thus, it’s reasonable to conclude that the meta is not only originally part of the THSCverse, but also that it is, itself, a stick figure (unless it became something else after their “ascension”.

As for other arguments proving their mortality, or pseudo mortality, they allude to three very notably organic behaviors:

1) they take a bathroom break during the calculator fail in std, suggesting a need, or at least the capacity, to eat food and drink fluids.

[id: fail screen for the calculator option, which reads “sorry, I was in the bathroom. What’d I mi— Where’d… Where is everyone?” End id.]

2) they mention having a nightmare similar to the g-inverter effects, proving that they used to sleep, if they don’t continue to do so.

[id: fail screen for the g-inverter option which reads “pretty sure I had a nightmare like this.” End id.]

3) they complain about their ears hurting from the Sonic pulse fail—direct proof that they can feel pain, even if they can’t die from injury.

[id: fail screen for the sonic pulse option, which reads “That hurt my ears! >:C” The “>:C” is a drawn, angry frown that is right side up. End id.]

As for what happened to turn them into what they are now, I don’t have any solid ideas, just a possible suggestion. It ends off its info dump by mentioning an experimental attempt at putting two portals on top of each other, but trails off and dismisses itself with an assumption that Henry “heard about it on the news.” This could be its usual nonchalance, or it could be the exact opposite: discomfort. It's possible that they were there for the attempt, and the incident was traumatic in some way (either through the process of changing into what we know them as now, or the change itself).

Adjusting to New Powers

Even with the notion that they weren't always in this form, it's worth noting that they seem fairly competent with actually triggering a fail. We don't get any fails triggered on accident (the fake fail in EtP is deliberate as they directly reference the fact that you won't be able to read it all at once), nor do we get particularly awkward cutoffs (the closest being the Shovel fail, which is only there to give you enough time to stop the car). However, the specific style of the fail screens changes with each game, implying some amount of experimentation. This is amplified in the Breaking the Bank remake, in which the fail screen sound effect changes for each fail, which could suggest unfamiliarity on their part.

Furthermore, their ability to interact with the world and the game itself is slim to nothing until Fleeing the Complex, in which they access a command line. They also learn to interact directly with the player via pop ups. They do get a little carried away, though.

[id: the fail screen for the slingshot option. The text has been replaced with a blue pop-up window reading “whoa! How did this happen?” The button is labeled “shrug”. The pop up window is split in half, with its left half on the right edge of the screen and its right half on the left edge of the screen, as though wrapping around to the other side. End ID.]

Their abilities get more advanced in Completing the Mission, in which they access a transform menu, have a voice clip, speak in text outside of a fail screen, and even summon objects into the world.

[ID: Henry Stickmin trapped within a holding cell on the Toppat clan orbital station, holding a Bobby pin. Henry stares at an out-of-place lock on the metal cell door. Narration text reads “> Fine!? You want a lock? >THERE! There’s your lock!” End ID.]

Criminal History + Kleptomania

The fail screen in Midnight Surprise alludes to some past that we don’t actually see. The closest we get are the Explosives fail in BtB and C4 fail in ItA.

[id: fail screen for the midnight surprise fail. First line reads “ah, just like old times.” Second line, in smaller text, reads “that was a poorly thought out plan…” end id.]

In general, they’re nonchalant about Henry’s crimes and sometimes try to give pointers to help out. Its comment on Henry’s failed bribery attempt even suggests they’ve committed briberies before, and multiple times.

[ID: the fail screen for the bribe option. Text reads “Strange… That usually works.” End ID.]

As for their kleptomania, the multiple collectible-based achievements in the series aren’t just collectibles found in isolation of one another, they’re usually things that belong to someone else (Assemble the Crew may be an exception depending on interpretation, but a crewmate is seen in the Toppats’ vault so it could count as stealing). Additionally, they don’t serve any benefit beyond ticking up the achievement progression.

It’s worth noting that this is all done through the player’s hand and is entirely optional, but given that various fails give achievements, including via interactions with the fail screen text itself, we can most likely assume that the meta voice is at least partially responsible for divvying out achievements. Weak evidence? Perhaps, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

There’s also the pickpocket fail in which they cheer on Henry’s decision to take all of Isaac Binderson’s “loot”—immediately after questioning whether he really needed to.

[ID: fail screen for the pickpocket option. First line reads “did you really need all that?” Second line, which is written with much smaller text, reads “No loot left behind!” End id.]

Road rage

Half joke

[ID: The fail screen for the Hijack option, which reads: “AND you forgot to signal. Sheesh!” End ID.]

But also not

[id: fail screen for the shoot option, which reads “eyes on the road man!” End ID.]

[the-irken-luxray]

More doodles of the meta voice/fail text. Torn between keeping coming up with an actually unique design for them and keeping them as a generic stick figure ghost but no mouth. Except I've been struggling with coming up with an actual design for them.

I like the latter option because it's almost... symbolic? Iconic, but also generic; emotive and witty yet unable to be seen or heard by anyone... But that's a ramble for another day.

IDs under the cut

ID: A variety of doodles of a fan-made personification of The Henry Stickmin Collection's fail text, drawn in light blue (except in one case, where they are drawn in black for easier visibility). The persona is a mouthless but otherwise generic stick figure that is free floating, as though they are a ghost or phantom. All images have a watermark for the-irken-luxray.

ID 1:

The fail screen for the wormhole rifle option from Stealing the Diamond, which reads:

"I'm surprised you weren't able to get down there with that amazing portal technology. It's pretty strange how those portal guns work. I mean it combines the top scientific processes of our time. The portal gun contains a flux quantum generator which propels energy blasts with energy volumes of 4.23 GW with an average speed of 25 m/s. this speed is most effective because it allows the energy to be conserved while still maintaining a speed that is appropriate. The external plastic coating on the portal gun is constructed of a high polymer fireproof carbon fiber. This prevents the intense energy of the portal gun from burning the hands of the user. The intense energy causes intense heat. Oh by the way if you want an achievement click here. I've heard that scientists still do not know what happens if two portals are placed on top of one another. The last time that was attempted... Well I'm sure you heard about it on the news."

Five doodles of the fail text persona surround the screenshot, meant to be the fail text at various points in time. The top left holds a hand to its chin; the top right holds up a finger with their eyes closed, as though explaining the complex topic presented in the screenshot; the mid-left lays on their stomach while kicking their legs, as though excitedly rambling the info presented in the screenshot; the mid-bottom points to the word "here" in the screenshot; and the bottom right has their eyes closed while waving a hand dismissively in the other direction.

To the right of the screenshot and five doodles is a motion-blurred sketch of Henry Stickmin (drawn in black, to distinguish him as being physically present). A speech bubble pointing to Henry contains the Bugs Bunny "For the love of god please help me" meme.

ID 2:

A fail screen for one of the timeout options in Infiltrating the Airship, showing a closed metal door. The fail text reads: "Ok, ok! No more quick time events!" and, in smaller text, "How's your head by the way?"

Two doodles of the personified fail text overlay the drawing (drawn in black instead of blue for better visibility). The first is wiping away a tear and holding their other hand to their stomach as though they were laughing hard, and the second one shows mild concern for Henry (who is unseen).

ID 3:

A screenshot from Infiltrating the Airship with Henry glaring at the camera while holding the teleporter. A doodle of the fail text persona holds out a thumbs up. Text with an arrow pointing to the doodle reads "knows there's like an 80% chance of some shit going wrong".

ID 4:

A fail screen for the G.A.B.E.N. option from Infiltrating the Airship, which reads:

"error: stack overflow

"System.IO.FileNotFoundException:

"Could not find file C:\Program Files\HL3\G.A.B.E.N..dll

"Dump cache;"

Next to the screenshot is the fail text persona, but with smaller, circular eyes that are filled with television static. The stick figure is glitched in multiple places and has a chromatic aberration/"3D glasses" effect.

ID 5:

The fail screen for the Dark Energy Bomb option in Infiltrating the Airship, which has no fail text. Two doodles of the mouthless stick figure are to the left. The first holds up a hand with a bent finger, looking distraught. The second lowers its hand while looking away, looking sympathetic as well as distraught.

Text below reads "(was going to make a joke but a 10yo's dad just fucking died)"

ID 6:

Three miscellaneous doodles of the fail text persona. The left has its hand below its chin in a thinking expression. The middle has its eyes closed and is shrugging. The right is looking downward and pointing at something beneath them.

End ID.

[other-cullen-ficrecs]

In a way I'd consider them worse. You can say no to Morrigan and she doesn't stab you for it. (RIP Sir Jory)

The fanbase: All the mage love interests betray you!

Me:

Because sure, with Solas:

But you can, at least, learn about and disagree with Anders's plan. And Morrigan...

[yomeritoo2]

GUIA PARA NUEVOS EDTUMBLRS

Sw = starting weight (tu peso inicial)

Cw = current weight (tu peso actual)

Ugw = ultimate goal weight (tu meta de peso más extrema)

Gw = goal weight (pequeñas metas de peso, por ejemplo, gw1 50kg, gw2 45kg, ugw 40kg)

Lw = lowest weight (tu peso más bajo)

Hw = highest weight (tu peso más alto)

Binge = atracon

Fast = NF ("no Food", ninguna comida, Ayuno)

Liquid Fast / lq fast (es masomenos como el ayuno, pero se puede consumir calorías liquidas)

Omad (one meal a day) = alimentarse solo una vez al día y ayunar durante las demás horas del día.

Mono = comer solo un tipo de comida, por ejemplo: comer solo manzanas o lechuga durante un día o más.

(El mérito de esa publicación no es mío. Una chica brasileña la encontró en polonês y hizo la traducción para el portugués. Lo único que hice fue traducir del portugués al español. Infelizmente no pude etiquetar a la chava, pero eso no significa que no esté agradecida con ella. Obrigada, pelas informações, meu bem! 🦋)

Les dejo el enlace de la publicación original ⬇️

[plumshiis]

WIEIAD 11/17/24

Okay so I’m not gonna take all of my screenshots tonight because Im super dizzy and probs gonna faint here in a bit but I will get my rundown for today. Getting it done early🩷

In: 554

Out: 351

Net: 203

I’m gonna do a meta day either tomorrow or Tuesday. I still have time to lose the last lbs I need for my first gw!

Be safe y’all 🩷

[fallenwingzero]

@laughterbynight

It's infodumping time, I'm so sorry in advance 😅

Blind Target, Battlefield of Pacifists and Ground Zero (all written by writers of the gw anime) all show Heero and Relena to be quite affectionate with each other but accepting that Heero keeps his distance due to Relena being a public figure so I assume it's a "secret relationship" type deal and they do meet up every now and again.

The radio drama (although crack) even has the boys asking Heero what stage he and Relena are at in their relationship and teasing him for it XD. Zechs seems to know more about their deal by this point too.

Side note worth mentioning: In Japanese fandom spaces, side content is considered canon (even crack cd drama characterisations) with fans even chasing up writers if things from them get retconned. They tend to be a lot more serious about meta and this shows especially in FT where even the manga sequels/prequels get frequently alluded to rather than just the anime, movie and Episode Zero.

Frozen Teardrop has Heero eventually staying by Relena's side in the February after Endless Waltz and even living at the Darlian estate with Relena tending to the many wounds he obtained over the course of the series. So it matches up that their relationship with each other more known (at least by the pilots) by that point. Pagan and Mareen are even acquainted with Heero by the Preventor 5 arc continuation (aww ;-;).

So I imagine Heero keeping his distance in both the EW epilogues yet still watching Relena's speech and still looking up at the sky thinking of her is just him being Heero and thinking his life is too cheap to be by Relena's side, despite her protests otherwise. They do definitely seem to keep in touch every now and again though and care deeply about each other by that point.

Lmao, it's Quatre's shipper on deck guess of what Heero would say in that situation but still so accurate to how dramatic he can be 😂.

To be fair, after the Preventor 5 mission fails in FT Heero does in fact last two (2) days without Relena before freezing himself. So Quatre's guess was kind of right (his space heart never fails lol).

The terrorists immediately bailing never fails to amuse me either. Literally everyone in the Earth Sphere knows not to mess with Heero when it concerns Relena, (Vice-Foreign Minister Darlian's relationship with Heero Yuy is also the ESUN's worst kept secret 😂).